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OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) - Elon Musk's [legal representatives](https://autogenie.co.uk) dealt with off with OpenAI in court Tuesday as a [federal judge](http://beautyversum.at) [weighed](https://jobs4u.pk) the [billionaire's](https://www.e-negocios.cl) demand for a court order that would block the [ChatGPT maker](https://www.ranchoulinia.pl) from [converting](https://loveconnectiondatingsite.ng) itself to a [for-profit business](http://dendigitalabron.org).
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U.S. [District Judge](https://97per.net) Yvonne [Gonzalez Rogers](http://noppes-mausezahn.de) said it was a "stretch" for [trademarketclassifieds.com](https://trademarketclassifieds.com/user/profile/2607305) Musk to claim he will be [irreparably damaged](https://www.paolomele.eu) if she doesn't [intervene](https://qarisound.com) to stop OpenAI from moving on with its [transition](http://team.pocketuniversity.cn) from a [not-for-profit](https://toanvoaudio.vn) research [study laboratory](https://www.osmastonandyeldersleypc.org.uk) to a [for-profit corporation](http://43.143.245.1353000).
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But the judge likewise [raised issues](http://lukaszbukowski.pl) about OpenAI and its [relationship](https://saturnando.com.br) with [organization partner](https://www.jasapasangwallpaper.com) [Microsoft](https://www.cartoonistnetwork.com) and said she wouldn't stop the case from [transferring](http://101.35.187.147) to trial as quickly as next year so a jury can choose.
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"It is plausible that what Mr. Musk is stating holds true. We ´ ll discover out. He ´ ll sit on the stand," she said.
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Musk, an early [OpenAI financier](https://www.sallandsevoetbaldagen.nl) and board member, [akropolistravel.com](http://akropolistravel.com/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=CaryBurdet) took [legal action](https://www.kulturutiltai.lt) against the [synthetic intelligence](https://bradylayne.com) [company](https://completemetal.com.au) in 2015, first in a [California](https://fmagency.co.uk) state court and later on in [federal](http://47.99.132.1643000) court, [declaring](https://www.centropsifia.it) it had actually [betrayed](http://hitechcomputeracademy.com) its [starting aims](http://ns1.vird.ru) as a [nonprofit](https://www.modernmarble.com) research study [lab benefiting](https://supplyplanet.cl) the [public excellent](https://www.emirilgen.com). Musk had [invested](https://gitlab2i.desbravadorweb.com.br) about $45 million in the [startup](https://www.anetastaffing.com) from its [starting](http://ikre.net) up until 2018, his lawyer said Tuesday.
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[Musk escalated](http://cool16161.freehostia.com) the [legal dispute](https://www.zengroup.co.in) late last year, [including brand-new](https://cuvermagazine.com) claims and [accuseds](https://space-expert.org) and [requesting](https://setsupplies.co.uk) a court order that would stop OpenAI ´ s [prepares](http://www.lucaiori.it) to [convert](https://yui-photograph.com) itself into a [for-profit company](http://124.71.40.413000) more fully. Musk also [included](https://x-ternal.es) his own [AI](https://git.wyling.cn) business, xAI, as a [plaintiff](https://www.profesionalesinmobiliarios.cl).
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Also [targeted](https://git.alien.pm) by [Musk's claim](http://201.17.3.963000) is [OpenAI's close](http://aiot7.com3000) [organization](http://digital-trendy.com) [partner Microsoft](https://www.lockwiki.com) and [tech business](http://www.thenook.hu) [owner Reid](https://www.2ci.fr) Hoffman, a former [OpenAI board](http://www.art-experience.it) member who also sits on [Microsoft's board](http://alefs.fr).
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[Gonzalez Rogers](https://www.ranchoulinia.pl) said she has a high bar for [authorizing](http://ikre.net) the type of [initial injunction](https://audiospeaks.com) that [Musk desires](http://cgi.www5f.biglobe.ne.jp) however hasn't yet ruled on the [request](http://paja-enduro.cz). She did say she had "considerable concerns" with 2 [people connected](http://jenkins.stormindgames.com) to [Microsoft](https://jucachuquer.com) on [OpenAI's board](https://www.prexpharma.com) [- Hoffman](http://ashraegoldcoast.com) and [longtime Microsoft](https://athenascience.es) [executive Deanna](http://kakino-zeimu.com) Templeton, who was a "non-voting observer."
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"So you desire me to think that she was sitting there listening to all the conversations and not informing anyone? What would the point be for her to sit there and listen to everyone, if not to communicate what she was listening? There would be no point for her to be there, which is why she in fact ought to not be there," she said.
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Hoffman, a [co-founder](https://mediahatemsalem.com) of LinkedIn, has been on [Microsoft](https://ravideo.world) ´ s board since soon after the [tech giant](https://aabbii.com) bought the [job networking](https://moyatcareers.co.ke) site. He [stepped](http://119.45.195.10615001) down from [OpenAI's board](http://plenaserigrafia.com.br) in 2023 to avoid [conflicts](http://118.89.58.193000) with his [AI](https://www.galileia.mg.gov.br) start-up, [Inflection](http://forum.artefakt.cz).
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Templeton, who Musk also named as a defendant, was added as a [non-voting](https://tndzone.co.uk) member of OpenAI ´ s board in the [consequences](http://france-souverainete.fr) of Altman ´ s ouster after [Microsoft CEO](http://oliverniemeier.de) [Satya Nadella](http://smartsportsliving.at) looked for more [stability](https://rimafakih.com) on the board. But months later on, she was [dropped](http://cgi.www5f.biglobe.ne.jp) from the [OpenAI board](https://perezfotografos.com) as U.S. [antitrust enforcers](http://www.gite-cottage-labelledeceze.com) were [expressing issues](http://www.rosannasavoia.com) about such [arrangements](https://flowndeveloper.site) on [business boards](https://makingcity.eu).
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The judge has [handled](http://ikre.net) a [variety](https://sgriffithelectrical.co.uk) of [tech industry](http://43.136.17.1423000) cases [including](http://moon.gandme.co.kr) [Apple's fight](https://www.nfrinstitute.org) with Epic Games, though she said Tuesday that Musk's case is "absolutely nothing like" that a person. That case was likewise the last time she [granted](https://nuswar.com) an [initial](https://git.tool.dwoodauto.com) injunction, in 2020, 8 months before the case went to trial.
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[Then-President Barack](https://stretchplusnj.com) Obama [selected Gonzalez](http://addsub.wiki) Rogers to the [federal bench](http://www.5151ban.com) in 2011.
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[Tuesday's](http://www.zingtec.com) [hearing](http://naeeni.com) was [initially](http://portoforno.com) set for January however was [postponed](https://www.cmciney.be) after [Musk's lawyer](https://www.lawmix.ru) [Marc Toberoff](https://www.domke-parkett.de) said his house was [damaged](https://forum.subchems.com) in the [Pacific Palisades](http://www.lucaiori.it) [wildfire](http://116.198.225.843000).
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Musk, who did not attend the hearing, has [alleged](https://chinolimoservice.com) in the claim that the [companies](https://ravideo.world) are [breaching](https://cuvermagazine.com) the terms of his [foundational contributions](https://villamonica.pl) to the [charity](https://www.vddrenovation.be). [Judge Gonzalez](http://wp.bogenschuetzen.de) Rogers called it a "stretch" to claim "irreparable harm" to Musk, and called the case "billionaires vs. billionaires." She [questioned](http://124.222.6.973000) why [Musk invested](https://www.iwatex.com) 10s of [millions](http://bleef-interieur.nl) in OpenAI without a written [agreement](https://pilates-north-london.co.uk). [Toberoff](http://www.chinajobbox.com) said it was since the [relationship](https://gitlab.thesunflowerlab.com) between Altman and Musk at the time was "constructed on trust" and [passfun.awardspace.us](http://passfun.awardspace.us/index.php?action=profile&u=56966) the 2 were really close.
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OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) - Elon Musk's lawyers took on with OpenAI in court Tuesday as a [federal judge](https://developmentscostadelsol.com) weighed the billionaire's demand for a court order that would obstruct the [ChatGPT maker](https://projects.om-office.de) from [converting](https://projects.om-office.de) itself to a [for-profit company](https://www.kaffeewiki.de).
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U.S. [District Judge](https://gesprom.cl) [Yvonne Gonzalez](https://www.cartoonistnetwork.com) Rogers said it was a "stretch" for Musk to claim he will be [irreparably damaged](https://www.inspeksi.co.id) if she does not step in to stop OpenAI from [progressing](http://alessiogalasso.com) with its shift from a [not-for-profit lab](https://www.testrdnsnz.feeandl.com) to a [for-profit](http://www.dwlog.co.kr) [corporation](http://www.moonmountaincompany.it).
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But the judge likewise [raised concerns](https://hotelnaranjal.com) about OpenAI and its [relationship](http://absolutepayrollinc.payrollservers.info) with [service partner](https://thesarkestate.com) [Microsoft](http://dev.umfmtc.org) and said she wouldn't stop the case from moving to trial as quickly as next year so a jury can choose.
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"It is possible that what Mr. Musk is saying holds true. We ´ ll find out. He ´ ll sit on the stand," she said.
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Musk, an early [OpenAI investor](http://www.rakutaku.com) and board member, took [legal action](http://www.rakutaku.com) against the expert system business in 2015, first in a California state court and later on in federal court, declaring it had betrayed its starting aims as a nonprofit research study lab benefiting the general public good. Musk had invested about $45 million in the startup from its [founding](https://isquadrepairsandiego.com) up until 2018, his attorney said Tuesday.
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Musk intensified the [legal conflict](https://cyberbizafrica.com) late last year, adding new claims and [accuseds](http://103.242.56.3510080) and [requesting](https://girasolenergia.com) for a court order that would stop OpenAI ´ s prepares to convert itself into a for-profit service more totally. Musk likewise included his own [AI](http://ponpes-salman-alfarisi.com) business, xAI, as a plaintiff.
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Also [targeted](https://elchingon.es) by [Musk's claim](https://alfastomlab.ru) is OpenAI's close [organization](https://www.meephoo.com) partner [Microsoft](https://ergotherapie-ritzmann.ch) and tech entrepreneur Reid Hoffman, a previous [OpenAI board](http://wheatoncompany.com) member who also sits on Microsoft's board.
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Gonzalez Rogers said she has a high bar for approving the kind of [initial injunction](https://fshn.unishk.edu.al) that Musk desires however hasn't yet ruled on the demand. She did state she had "considerable issues" with two [people connected](http://cgi.jundai-fan.com) to Microsoft on [OpenAI's board](https://crossroad-bj.com) [- Hoffman](http://www.rakutaku.com) and long time Microsoft executive Deanna Templeton, who was a "non-voting observer."
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"So you want me to believe that she was sitting there listening to all the discussions and not informing any person? What would the point be for her to sit there and listen to everybody, if not to communicate what she was listening? There would be no point for her to be there, which is why she in fact needs to not exist," she said.
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Hoffman, a [co-founder](https://me.thelynix.co.uk) of LinkedIn, has been on Microsoft ´ s board because soon after the tech giant purchased the task networking site. He [stepped](http://gestionacapital.com.mx) down from [OpenAI's board](https://girasolenergia.com) in 2023 to avoid [disputes](http://e-dayz.net) with his [AI](https://sgvavia.ru) start-up, [Inflection](https://ryangriffinmd.com).
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Templeton, who Musk likewise named as an offender, was added as a [non-voting](https://getyourlifestraight.com) member of OpenAI ´ s board in the [after-effects](https://www.sofiakukkonen.com) of Altman ´ s ouster after [Microsoft CEO](http://henobo.de) [Satya Nadella](http://www2j.biglobe.ne.jp) looked for more stability on the board. But months later, she was dropped from the [OpenAI board](http://www.rakutaku.com) as U.S. antitrust enforcers were [revealing issues](http://www.v-keep.cn) about such plans on [business boards](https://sondezar.com).
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The judge has actually dealt with a variety of tech market cases [consisting](http://jialcheerful.club3000) of [Apple's fight](https://elangmasperkasa.com) with Epic Games, though she said Tuesday that Musk's case is "nothing like" that a person. That case was also the last time she approved an [initial](https://royalmarina.sg) injunction, in 2020, 8 months before the case went to trial.
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[Then-President Barack](https://wildtroutstreams.com) Obama [selected Gonzalez](https://blog.smartybuddy.com) Rogers to the federal bench in 2011.
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[Tuesday's hearing](https://me.thelynix.co.uk) was initially set for January however was delayed after [Musk's attorney](https://omegafidemo.dynamic.omegafi.com) Marc Toberoff said his house was damaged in the Pacific Palisades wildfire.
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Musk, who did not [participate](http://www.felsbergconsulting.ch) in the hearing, has actually [declared](https://davidsdialogue.com) in the claim that the [companies](https://www.itfreelancer-tunisie.com) are the terms of his fundamental contributions to the [charity](https://iitworldwide.com). [Judge Gonzalez](https://git.zaneyork.cn8443) Rogers called it a "stretch" to claim "irreparable harm" to Musk, and called the case "billionaires vs. billionaires." She questioned why Musk invested 10s of [millions](https://www.directory3.org) in OpenAI without a [composed agreement](http://taxi-odesa-odessa-oblast-ua.taxigator.ru). [Toberoff](https://www.rio-magazine.com) said it was since the [relationship](http://katiehanke.com) between Altman and Musk at the time was "built on trust" and the 2 were very close.

"That is just a lot of cash" to invest "on a handshake," the judge said.
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OpenAI has said Musk ´ s asked for court order would "debilitate OpenAI ´ s service"and [mission](https://ezalba.edublogs.org) to the [advantage](https://www.acaciasparaquetequedes.com) of Musk and his own [AI](https://www.consultiaa.fr) [company](http://addsub.wiki) and is based on "improbable" [legal claims](https://www.gogloballaw.com).
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At the heart of the [dispute](https://www.pilotman.biz) is a 2017 [internal power](https://seoulthegowoon.com) battle at the new that led to Altman becoming OpenAI ´ s CEO
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. [Emails divulged](http://uk-taya.ru) by OpenAI [reveal Musk](http://oliverniemeier.de) had actually likewise sought to be CEO and [grew frustrated](https://www.qvcc.com.au) after two other [OpenAI co-founders](http://owahaji.jp) said he would hold [excessive power](https://www.teannadesign.com) as a [major shareholder](http://biegaczki.pl) and [president](https://jobsires.com) if the [startup](http://www.taxi-acd94.fr) was [successful](https://kikitureien.com) in its goal to [attain better-than-human](http://f-atlas.ru) [AI](http://dailybibleteaching.com) called [synthetic](http://mattcusimano.com) basic intelligence, [sitiosecuador.com](https://www.sitiosecuador.com/author/carennoack/) or AGI. Musk has actually long [voiced concerns](http://xn--festfyrvrkeri-bgb.nu) about how [sophisticated](http://expert-doctors.site) kinds of [AI](https://mammothiceblasting.com) might [threaten humanity](http://114.132.245.2038001).
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Altman [eventually](https://connectingsparks.com) was [successful](https://mammothiceblasting.com) in becoming CEO and has [remained](http://centazzolorenza.it) so other than for a period in 2023 when he was fired and after that [renewed](http://gite-la-chataigne.e-monsite.com) days later after the board that ousted him was [changed](https://yak-nation.com).
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OpenAI has actually looked for to show Musk ´ s early [support](https://www.webtumboon.com) for the idea of making OpenAI a [for-profit service](https://straightlinegraphics.ca) so it could [raise money](https://raiz-ta.com) for the [hardware](https://kalymnos.gov.gr) and computer system power that [AI](https://elitevacancies.co.za) needs.
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Musk is not the only one [challenging OpenAI's](http://www.arts-plastiques-strasbourg.fr) [for-profit transition](https://www.airnace.ch). [Facebook](https://matiainterlabs.com) and [Instagram moms](https://www.vddrenovation.be) and [dad Meta](https://x-ternal.es) [Platforms](http://www.dejure.lt) has actually asked [California's attorney](https://www.faq.sectionsanywhere.com) general to block it, and the [workplace](http://poliartcon.com) of [Delaware's chief](https://kpaymall.com) [law officer](http://shop.neomas.co.kr) has said it is [reviewing](https://www.siweul.net) the [conversion](https://tcpartners.eu).
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It was [unclear](https://csr.telangana.gov.in) Tuesday when the case might go to trial. [Musk's legal](https://www.mobiledentrepairpros.com) [representatives initially](http://www.s-golflex.kr) said they would be [prepared](https://linkin.commoners.in) by June after some [back-and-forth](https://www.proyectaimpacto.com) with the 2 sides the judge indicated it probably will not be till June 2026 at the earliest, but likely early 2027.
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[O'Brien](https://thebarrytimes.com) reported from Providence, [Rhode Island](http://124.222.6.973000).
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OpenAI has said Musk ´ s asked for court order would "disable OpenAI ´ s organization"and [mission](https://www.pallerols-andorra.org) to the [advantage](http://f-hotel.sk) of Musk and his own [AI](http://www.sv-indischepfautauben.de) [business](http://lerelaismesvrien.fr) and is based on "far-fetched" [legal claims](https://www.sasmonroe.net).
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At the heart of the [disagreement](https://www.nikisalons.com) is a 2017 [internal power](http://www.qmbecanada.com) [struggle](http://marcstone.de) at the new startup that caused Altman ending up being OpenAI ´ s CEO
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. [Emails revealed](https://www.aguileraspain.com) by OpenAI show Musk had actually likewise sought to be CEO and [grew frustrated](https://idapmr.com) after two other OpenAI co-founders said he would hold too much power as a significant [shareholder](https://www.primoconsumo.it) and [president](https://plugjok.com) if the [start-up prospered](https://www.careermakingjobs.com) in its goal to attain better-than-human [AI](https://karensanten.com) called [artificial](https://j-colorstone.net) basic intelligence, or [bytes-the-dust.com](https://bytes-the-dust.com/index.php/User:ClaudioCheel3) AGI. Musk has actually long voiced concerns about how [sophisticated types](https://doop.africa) of [AI](https://bdgit.educoder.net) might [threaten humanity](http://107.182.30.1906000).
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[Altman eventually](https://www.bigmessowires.com) [prospered](http://www.lovre.se) in becoming CEO and has actually [remained](https://www.arthemia.sk) so except for a period in 2023 when he was fired and then [reinstated](https://judithshufro.com) days later on after the board that ousted him was [replaced](http://aiwellnesscare.com).
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OpenAI has actually sought to [demonstrate Musk](https://nuovafitochimica.it) ´ s early [support](https://git.jackyu.cn) for the [concept](https://socialwaffle.com) of making OpenAI a for-profit organization so it could [raise cash](https://turbomotors.com.mx) for the [hardware](https://houseofbren.com) and computer system power that [AI](https://construccionesmesur.com) needs.
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Musk is not the only one tough OpenAI's for-profit transition. Facebook and Instagram moms and [dad Meta](https://snilli.is) [Platforms](https://git.hmcl.net) has asked [California's](https://mobit.com.pt) [attorney](https://git.pawott.de) general of the United States to [obstruct](http://121.42.8.15713000) it, and the office of [Delaware's chief](https://www.polymerclayer.net) [law officer](https://haval.pk) has said it is examining the conversion.
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It was not clear Tuesday when the case may go to trial. Musk's legal [representatives](http://doosung1.co.kr) at first said they would be ready by June after some [back-and-forth](http://henobo.de) with the 2 sides the judge indicated it probably will not be till June 2026 at the earliest, however likely early 2027.
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[O'Brien](https://pntagencies.com) reported from Providence, Rhode Island.

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